Menagerie stuff.

[syredronning]

Menagerie stuff... I partly fast-forwarded through it *cough*

I'm actually not totally sure why I dislike it so much. I think it's got to be a mix of:

a) Spock would find a better solution than stealing Jim's spaceship. My Spock is cleverer than this! (Yes, I started out as Spockie ages ago. He.)
b) Convoluted setup with what they see, too much dragging on (okay, it was an emergency reuse of material and for that it was okay, but still not loving it).
c) The Pike thing hurts, and the beep thing is illogical (though I tried to explain it in my tiny ficlet lately).

Good things:
a) McCoy totally defending Spock when Kirk suspects the Vulcan plays a foul game. Beautiful insight into McCoy's true opinions about Spock.
b) Dress uniforms ftw! ;)
c) Great tension between Kirk and Spock here. Having your first officer and friend stealing your ship has got to hurt like hell. Some good stories came out of it.
d) Oh, and this whole "Spock is extremely loyal to his commanding officer" thing - another story plot feeder.

Comments

[faithsummers80.livejournal.com]

Yeah...I think they pretty much wanted to use all the footage they could from the pilot...maybe the writers were on vacation? On the plus side? TOS Pike is hawt! I also really liked that his first office was female [nurse Chapel yet another recycled actor/character].

[syredronning.livejournal.com]

They were incredibly short of time and money, so reusing was the only viable solution. I can see their motivation, but I can still dislike it :)

Unfortunately, TOS Pike does absolutely nothing for me :/ It's only with Reboot Pike that I want to write him :)

[illariy.livejournal.com]

RE the negative a) Spock was emotionally compromised? Telepathically influenced? I agree that I think he should've, somehow, been able to find a solution that didn't involve Kirk's ship...

RE positive d) yes, it opens all kinds of possibilities, doesn't it. :D

[syredronning.livejournal.com]

:) Influenced Spock, hmmm.

[taraljc.livejournal.com]

I just rewatch "The Cage" all the time, and skip "The Menagerie" for the most part. I did finally watch it all the way through (when I was working on "No Small Dreams") but yeah... I hate hate hate hate hate it.

[syredronning.livejournal.com]

Glad to know I'm not alone in this. What's your main problem? Pike in the chair...? Or that No1 and Boyce are not there?

[taraljc.livejournal.com]

That a) the accident happens at all (just as justification for the framing sequence with Spock) and b) that Chris being "reunited" with Vina and living in a dream world is supposed to be a "happyily ever after" rather than a tragedy.

[sangueuk.livejournal.com]

I hated the girl - so fucking wet. I hate all these wet women on Trek. Thank God for Number One!

I didn't even consider that Pike might be hot until blcwriter, eldritchorrors and YOU! I've been catching up on your fic.

That is one hot icon.

[syredronning.livejournal.com]

Aw, thank you! Pike is gorgeous IMVHO. Happy I can make you see the light *giggles*had wine tonight*

[sangueuk.livejournal.com]

had wine tonight - me too!

Another hot icon. *gulps*

[syredronning.livejournal.com]

I might feel compelled to say that all Pike icons are hot by default.

Sigh, I really got it bad (with Pike AND Bruce Greenwood). Sigh.

[sangueuk.livejournal.com]

PS - you have got to read this, bb.

Swing and Miss

Only a mention of Pike, so that's not why I'm recc'ing it, but I think it addresses your interests!

[cyranothe2nd.livejournal.com]

What I never understood about this episode is, in the big reveal of Vina's true visage, she isn't even symmetrical. I mean, I know she said the Talosians had never seen a human before but...really? I mean, symmetry is pretty basic, particularly to a bipedal organism. Just...stupid.

[syredronning.livejournal.com]

You're right! I realized that yesterday too :) though never before that. The idea was interesting, the logic - fail *G*